The Linc Online logo

How To Form A Band

Image: Various musiciansHow To Form A Band

Forming a band can be both a daunting and exciting task. Rock ‘n’ Roll stardom may be on the horizon, but first there’s a whole host of obstacles in the way, from getting a place to practice to taking on that daunting first gig.

That’s why we set up our very own ‘School of Rock’, inviting a group of young, new bands to learn the tricks of the trade for a group of musicians who have been plying their trade on the local and regional scene.

Together, Chris Prescott of Liverpool rockers Bingo Wings, Testosterone guitarist Ian Graham, Hobo Heist’s Phil Koller and Tim Greenhalgh, former lead singer with The Bright Lights, have around 20 years experience of playing in bands, and were more than happy to offer some advice.

Starting Out…

CHRIS:
When you’re starting out, it’s best to form a band with mates and people who have similar influences as you. Even if one likes Metallica and the other likes Megadeth, you’ve got metal music in common, and that’s important to have because it means you’re all more likely to want to go in the same direction.

PHILL:
Perhaps start by playing a few covers, that way you can work out what you’ll sound like as a group.

If at first you don’t succeed

TIM:
Don’t be disheartened if your first band doesn’t last, because they usually don’t.

IAN:
There’s all sorts of reasons why. One of which is that most bands form in college when you’re still discovering different types of music and what you like. By the end, everyone’s tastes are likely to change and you don’t share that common ground that you used to.

CHRIS:
Don’t give up though. That first band is great for finding your feet musically and thinking about what you actually want from a band.

Practice makes perfect

CHRIS:
If you wanna play like, Carnegie Hall, practice is very important.

TIM:
Yeah, if you wanna play Wembley arena…

CHRIS:
Then it’s not that important!

PHILL:
No, practicing is essential. Nail down one time every week when you can all commit. By agreeing on it before hand there’s no excuse for not practicing.

Be Open Minded

TIM:
I think that’s the single most important thing about being in a band, taking on board other people’s ideas and listening to opinions. If you’re writing all the lyrics and another guy is writing all the music but then the drummer has an idea and you say ‘well it’s not up to you, we’re not listening’, that’s the wrong way to go about it. Arguments happen and bands break up over things like that.

The Write Stuff

TIM:
I don’t think you start writing good songs until you’ve done about five or six. You’ll always go through all the rubbish before you find something good.

CHRIS:
It’s easier to write songs if you know what everyone’s about. Like Phil said before, if you play a few covers, you learn about everyone’s skills and abilities. It’s no good going to write a song and saying ‘right, you put a really good lead riff in there’ if you’re guitarist can’t do it.

PHILL:
It’s normally best to write songs before you turn up at practice, or at least have the ideas. We normally write all our songs on an acoustic guitar before practice and then turn up and work on them till they sound good.

For The Record

CHRIS:
Being in the studio is normally very boring, but it’s important because to get a gig, most places need to get a demo from you.

IAN:
These days though, it’s not always necessary to go in the studio. Technology is better all the time, and you can produce a decent demo with a PC and the right software.

CHRIS:
That’s right. You don’t have to spend £600 recording three tracks because to be honest, a lot of promoters don’t actually listen to them, they just like to have them because it proves you’re serious about what you’re doing and really want a gig.

PHILL:
I was speaking to one guy who books gigs and he said ‘you give us a demo and we will give you a gig, its policy.

Let’s get this Show on the Road

IAN:
The best way to get your first gig is through friends in other bands. Chances are if you’re in a band then you’ll know other people in bands at different levels, and they’ll always try and help you out. I don’t think there’s any unsigned band around that would tell you to get stuffed if you asked for a bit of help or advice.

TIM:
Another good way to get a gig is to ring up a venue where you know you’re not playing and ask them if you’re on. Keep doing that and they’ll start to remember you.

IAN:
That’s a good thing to get your mates to do. Then when you ring up and ask for a gig they’ll think you’re in demand and will be more likely to book you.

IAN:
But don’t get too big. I know this band who did their first gig at The Academy in Manchester, they got about £200 for it and now they won’t play for anything less than that.

TIM:
Yeah, they said to me that they’re nothing less than a headlining band now, which is stupid. I can’t see many people who would want to deal with them if they’re going around with that sort of attitude.

PREC:
The best gigs are actually the ones where you don’t get paid. The ones where people give you money there’s normally some catch to it when you first get started.

PHIL:
The worst ones are pay-to-play gigs, where they say ‘give us fifty quid and you can play’ or ‘go and sell tickets and give us the money on the door’.

PREC:
Those sort of places are not interested in your band or your music, they’re just into the money, so don’t bother.

IAN:
The best promoters are the ones who give you a chance. Even if they don’t charge to get in, they’re the ones who care about music rather than getting bums on seats and money in the bank.

PREC:
You rarely get a gig at a venue without a promoter. There are places who will just put you on, but you mainly get promoters acting as middle men.

Bad gigs will happen

CHRIS:
Our first gig was a disaster. We went down for a meeting at The Collective just to introduce ourselves and say that we were looking for a gig at some point in the future. Whilst we were at the meeting, one of the bands who was supposed to be playing that Saturday rang up and cancelled, so they offered us the spot. Problem was, we only had two songs recorded, so we booked a practice session in on the Saturday morning, wrote four songs that morning and played them that night. It was a terrible gig, one of the worst we’ve ever played, but it was a good experience.

IAN:
Everyone has bad gigs, you’ve just gotta think about what went wrong and how you can make it better next time.

A word about Reviews...

CHRIS:
The worst gig we ever played was the first time somebody had come to review us, not exactly ideal.

IAN:
The thing with reviews is that you can play a belting gig, but the person who’s reviewing it or even the audience may not be your target. You could play the best gig of your life, but if you’re in a pop-punk band like we are and you’re playing to a crowd of metal fans, it’s a lot harder to impress.

PHILL:
Speaking of reviews, the funniest review we ever got said “Next are Hobo Heist, as you can imagine the name would conjure up images of a Scottish Ska-punk band. I was really disappointed when they weren’t ska-punk, but they were definitely Scottish. The singer sounded Scottish when he sang and spoke.” We’re probably the least Scottish band in the world. There was nothing good or bad in the whole review, it just kept going on about how Scottish we were.

We’re Jammin’

CHRIS:
Jam nights are a really good place to get a bit of experience playing live, even if you’re not in a band. People are always willing to give you a go and offer constructive criticism…or obviously compliments if you’re good!

Fools Gold

TIM:
You’ve gotta be prepared to make a fool of yourself at least once.

CHRIS:
If you don’t want to make a fool of yourself then you shouldn’t be a band. Its easier to be in a band with your mates because you can just laugh it off.

IAN:
Yeah, it’s just part and parcel of playing music. You’re up on stage in front of people, it’s not always gonna go smoothly!

PHIL:
I’ve had a few comments on my moves on stage, but I don’t care, I just get on with it now.

Final words of wisdom

CHRIS:
Have patience. Enjoy it and don’t take it too seriously.

PHILL:
Find people who have similar influences. It’s not gonna work if you like Metallica and your mate digs Curtis Mayfield.

TIM:
Respect your band mates' opinions and listen to ideas.

IAN:
Above all else, believe in what you’re doing and enjoy it. As long as you believe in yourself and your band, that’s what counts.


* Many thanks to all the staff at Ashton Leisure Centre for their co-operation with this feature.

Recommended Links:
Testosterone – www.myspace.com/testosterone
Bingo Wings – www.myspace.com/bingowings
Hobo Heist – www.myspace.com/hoboheist

For a list of venues, promoters and other local bands, check out our ‘Music Links’ page

Return to A Closer Look At...
 

Trust Home Page | About Us | Leisure | Culture | Tourism | Sport | Arts | Libraries | Contact Us